Talk:Mikhail Loris-Melikov

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  • Hmm... I think "Count Michael Tarielovich Loris-Melikov" would be better. That's the most common way Russian titles are translated into English, and it doesn't imply that "Tarielovich" is his last name. john 08:24 27 May 2003 (UTC)
    • Support, but Mikhail would be more appropriate. DmitryKo 07:02, 16 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Move to Mikhail Tarielovich Loris-Melikov[edit]

The name of this Russian statesman was anglicized in the Britannica but now the correct name is widespread enough; I believe the article is best to be moved to a proper title and the existing target article erased in process as a mere stub. DmitryKo 15:17, 21 Mar 2005 (UTC)

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Discussion[edit]

Add any additional comments for move to Mikhail Tarielovich Loris-Melikov below

Do you have any cites to show your point? I'm definitely open to the move, but I'd like to see some evidence first. Also, if there's going to be a move, I'd prefer it be to Count Mikhail Tarielovich Loris-Melikov. john k 17:43, 21 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Just search the web for 'Michael Loris-Melikov' and 'Mikhail Loris-Melikov', they are very close now and even the Britannica reverted to Mikhail [1] (it gives me shivers when I think they must have considered Michael Gorbachev at some point he he)
As for Count as part of the name, it's against conventional naming of Russian historical persons like Suvorov, Kutuzov, Potemkin, Bagration etc.; many notable statesmen and military commanders were created Count, Prince or Serene Prince at some time and since 1917, all noble ranks are treated like postnominal courtesy title, full name being the preferred form. DmitryKo 12:41, 22 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Moved. dbenbenn | talk 08:28, 27 Mar 2005 (UTC)

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